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Feb 10, 2020

On this episode of The Marina Perry Podcast, Marina is joined by Bella Zanesco, a career and life strategist who teaches people how to be fully expressed in career, life, and relationships. She is also the author of Smart Girls Screw Up Too and was awarded the UK Top 50 Young Changemaker of the Year. Together, Bella and Marina discuss ways to recognize when one is on a path towards burnout, ways to correct this path, and how to find joy in being “all of the parts of us.”

Talking about some of the major points in her book, Smart Girls Screw Up Too, Bella explains how the book was inspired by her own breakdown and the realization that the majority of people are struggling. She suggests that recognizing these feelings of struggle and identifying their sources is the first step in beginning the journey towards ending them.

Bella and Marina then discuss the importance of building desire into one’s life. They recommend finding the simple actions in one’s life that makes them feel lighter and then setting a few of these as daily goals. They suggest that doing so will then begin to shift that person towards a more joyous lifestyle.

Bella and Marina also introduce a number of new concepts and ways of examining different factors in one’s life that may be contributing to negative feelings. For example, they define and explain “source wounds,” “The Four Levels of Thought,” “The Five Tribes of People” in your social life, and “Kintsugi” (the Japanese philosophy of repair). In doing so, Bella and Marina offer a variety of ways for listeners to self-assess elements in their life that may or may not be contributing to a full and joyous lifestyle.

Together, the two also explain their own thoughts and experiences concerning meditation, recommending it as a pivotal tool for gaining self-insight that cannot be accessed in other ways. Marina talks about her initial resistance to meditation but how it has come to be a fulfilling practice for her through her recognition that there is no “right” way to meditate and that different people meditate in different ways.

Finally, Bella and Marina end the episode by discussing “play” and how it can be incorporated especially into the lives of those in corporate roles. Bella then offers her personal tips for best magnifying energy, empowerment, enterprise, and self-expression.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

  1.     Tips for ways to self-assess daily emotion and begin a healing process
  2.     A definition of  “source wounds” and how to identity them
  3.     A breakdown of the Four Levels of Thought and the Five Tribes of People that create our social life and how these both shape us
  4.     Advice for those who enjoy their work but not their environment
  5.     Exercises to help work out whether you are on the right path in life
  6.     Advice on meditation and play


Helpful Links:


Smart Girls Screw Up Too by Bella Zanesco

A Return to Love by Marianne Williamson

The Surrender Experiment by Michael Alan Singer

The Happiness Project by Gretchen Rubin

Men’s Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl